Why did Belfast start rioting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1XDd0h12TI

Are there more Raoul Moats out there?

From the amount of Facebook pages that went up. And the people who were on TV saying they understood Moat it would seem the potential for it is very real. Maybe this is something the police should bear in mind in the future.Today the police officer who was shot so cold bloodedly by Moat while he sat in his patrol car was on TV describing the events of the night. How he survived it is a miracle.The cops attitude seemed very sanguine, but I think in the days and weeks to come he will become very depressed. losing his eyesight will have terrible consequences in the weeks to come.
It is now obvious Moat had a grudge against the police, for whatever reasons right or wrong.And it's also clear that so do a lot of other people,ordinary citizens not gangsters like Moat.Some say Moat wasn't a thug and the media are blackening his name. A lot of the population think the mainstream media are the tools of the state. The government is not trusted. The bankers are thieves. So there are many reasons why the public and society are disintegrating. Moat as the anti hero was inevitable and he is not going to go away even though he is dead. Someone sometime will copy him. Maybe not in the same way but the result will be the same.This has always been the way in the past.Opinion is divided.And anyone saying Moat is a killer is classed as a spook working for the state.The government today called for the closing down of Facebook pages hero worshiping Moat. That would only prove beyond a doubt the state are the cops and make Moat more popular than ever,but then it will all go under ground.remember politicians never understand their electorate.
But one thing I would do if I was a cop is be more respectful to the public,regardless of who they are.You never know the next Raoul Moat could be a suicide bomber.

EDL Team Threatened With Arrest!

As a supporter of the EDL I am re-posting a story from there site here.


So where do we begin in this sorry political saga?

Ok we have a dedicated Police Liaison Team who have worked tirelessly with the Police to ensure we can facilitate a peaceful protest in Dudley. Many peoples of varying race, creeds, colours and religions are voicing their concerns about the growing problems of Islamist influence in the Black Country. Local people have been ignored for far too long, councillors are overruled in the High Court, and once again Islamist intimidation is having a profound effect on local politics and policing.

It was only a couple of days ago that our Police Liaison Team had a meet with West Midlands Police to finalise any outstanding details regarding the Dudley protest. Prior to this we had a meet with them and Kirk Dawes QPM, (Kirk was a very fair man and we appreciated his constructive input) who is the managing director of the “centre for conflict”. At this point we would like to remind our members, the general public and West Midlands Police themselves that we had ALL arrangements dealt with over two weeks before the Newcastle demo date with Northumbria Police, the Newcastle demo passed off peacefully with ZERO arrests as a result of dedicated liaison and co-operation with the local Police Force, we can’t thank Northumbria Police enough for helping us facilitate a wonderful peaceful protest. It just goes to show that even Chief Superintendent Graham Smith recognised this who said, and i quote......

“Thank you also to the organisers of all these events for their co-operation. We have worked closely with them to minimise disruption to the city”

Isn’t that proof that we can, and indeed do protest peacefully with the full co-operation and help of local Police Authorities?

Well not with West Midlands Police it would seem!

Even though previous meets were positive with other members of the Police Force one character seemed doggedly determined to rubbish any suggestions put to him, that man is Chief Supt Tom Coughlan, the man was more concerned with our members holding up broomsticks with banners attached, he wanted us to use bamboo instead, so obviously we pointed out to him that bamboo would not carry the weight of our banners anyway, so we offered to cushion the wood with pipe lagging if needed, his response was that we could take it off therefore it could be used as a weapon. Wait a minute, didn’t “Muslims Against The Crusades” actually have flags and banners with wood attached? So its ok for a fascist organisation (that is another incarnation of Al-Muhajiroun and Islam4UK) like theirs to hold banners supported by wooden broomsticks but not the English Defence League?

The duplicity in the application of law can be seen from many angles, one rule for them, and one rule for us. When the Dudley two were arrested Muslims were threatening and calling for violence, one Muslim male was arrested and then a senior member of the Dudley Muslim community actually threatened to have thousands of Muslims take to the streets if he was not released, a vey senior Police Officer admitted this to us in a previous meet! The Muslim inciting violence was released within a few hours; it took the English Defence League over two weeks to have the Dudley two released from remand and they were not advocating or even threatening violent acts! So where was the law being applied equally in that circumstance then eh?

Frankly speaking we are quite literally being discriminated against, we are not a terrorist organisation, we are not fascists, we oppose fascism, yet we are treated very differently to Islamist fascists, in fact it’s fair to say we are being treated worse than Islamist fascists for standing up FOR our country, its culture and even ironically its rule of law!

Every suggestion, every compromise, every chance our Police Liaison Team gave West Midlands Police to help facilitate a peaceful protest was rubbished by this man, it was very apparent that we could no longer discuss matters with him as he so obviously engineered a way to completely disrupt and disengage from common sense and a will to make things go safely and peacefully. This man is in fact actually helping to put people’s lives at risk with his agenda of disengagement; this is something that the English Defence League will not be held responsible for.

We are not making any kind of threat in saying such things but the reality is that peaceful demonstrations are in fact something that must be facilitated as outlined in articles 18, 19 and 20 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. This is also enshrined in The European Court Of Human Rights however the irony is that they have actually used a section 14 to destroy any hopes to facilitate a peaceful demonstration. Yes this sneering Police incompetent actually enjoyed handing these notices to our Police Liaison Team, that much was apparent. Our team made it perfectly clear we only ever wanted to work with them, we were not going to agree on all issues but for the sake of our member’s safety and that of the general public’s safety we had to co-operate. This unfortunately has fallen on deaf ears, as if West Midlands Police actually want it to go bad?????

West Midlands Police have made their intentions very clear from this article where Chief Supt Tom Coughlan states "We have a duty to allow protesters to do so peacefully, but incitement to hatred or violence or other crimes against people or property will be dealt with firmly.

"Previous experience has allowed us to fine-tune our response and tactics and as a result we are better prepared than ever to ensure the demonstration occurs with the maximum regard to public safety."

West Midlands Police also stated that “intelligence and tactics would help keep order”, how the hell is the denial of our right to peacefully protest against Sharia law and Islamist influence within the West Midlands amount to an “intelligent and tactical” decision??? Something that denies our right to peaceful freedom of assembly and protest is actually only going to cause more frustration within the varied communities who stand with us. The English Defence League give people a voice, and West Midlands police are wholly against it, it would seem.

Is it any surprise that Police have also not ruled out imposing restrictions on any protest as the date gets closer, in the interests of public safety.

Chief Supt Tom Coughlan is obviously a bit of a fantasist, who seems to think that all ills of today's Britain comes down to "social factors“ while at the same time bragging about ending gangrelated crime in Birmingham within the next year. Mr. Coughlan does seem to live in peculiar world of his own, so much so that even Dr Derrick Campbell, a government advisor on gangs and chief executive of Race Equality Sandwell finds him 'Strangely naive'. We can cetainly agree on the part about being "strange“, not so sure about the naive though! Because one cannot help but think that this "strange" analysis of Coughlan is indeed in one way or another influencing his professionalism in these matters. And let us not forget that the West Mdlands Police have a most curious track record when it comes to opposing hate speech in their Muslim communities. In much the same as they now target EDL for opposing the outrageous Muslim hate-preaching going on in every second mosque, Channel 4 got the excact same treatment after exposing the subversive activities of numerous mosques in the West Midlands. So how does that bode for a protest movement like the English Defence League?

In fact would Assistant Chief Constable Anil Patani of West Midlands Police (the man who unjustifiably tried to have the Channel 4 Dispatches team charged on racial and religious hatred laws for “Undercover Mosque”) like to come out with some kind of statement recognising our right to contest Sharia Law and Islamist influence? I find it quite ridiculous that the English Defence League are bashed for “costing the taxpayer” in Policing our events but when Anil Patani costs the taxpayer £100,000 in trumped up racial and religious hatred charges and libel costs for a group of people who have made a FACTUAL documentary, then why should we accept that as another excuse to keep us from demonstrating? You can find all this information and West Midlands grovelling apology to the filmmakers on this link.

In fact is it any surprise that Anil Patani’s Counter Terrorism Unit is one of the units assigned to investigate the English Defence League?

You decide!

So let’s make things perfectly clear on a legal basis for Chief Supt Tom Coughlan and his superior Anil Patani shall we?........

West Midlands Police are discriminating against us but they lack reasonable grounds to do so. They are deliberately singling the EDL and our Police Liaison Team out for no reason; the EDL is not a terrorist group or organisation. On top of this we now have local MPs stepping on eachothers toes eager to sign over our basic freedom of assembly to the whims of local police through new legislation, compromising the right to free assembly within the UK indefinately. Yesterday a certain Margot James, MP for Stourbridge, near Dudley, wrote to the Home Office asking that police powers be extended to enable them to ban all forms of protest on the grounds of public order when they have a case to do so. She says she is keen to maintain freedom of expression but "a loophole that allows the EDL to call their activity a rally not a march, so as to escape a potential ban, should be closed“.

Is it just another "strange“ coincidence, that we never heard a peep about such legislation in the last 50 years of socialist streetprotest dominance? You decide, but it certainly seem as if the hunt is now on for our freedom of association. Soon "hate assemblys“ will be persecuted under a mask of "Human Rights“. Well, the EDL despise the hypocrisy and double standards applied to our organisation, and would like to remind you of the most important last paragraph 30 of the declaration of human rights, which reads

Article 30

Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.

Truth does not turn into hate, just because leftist revolutionaries hate to hear it!

Certain Muslims are threatening our nation, and as such we call upon our rights under article 15 - derogations (relating to article 14) and we publicly REJECT the notices served against us. Our nation is in danger so we will speak out about this fact.

West Midlands Police are discriminating against the EDL protesting, without giving any reasons for such, but we the EDL reject the article 14 served against us, we believe certain Muslims are threatening our nation, and must be exposed. Our message is not one of hate; our message is one of truth!

Islamic Sharia is a threat to our nation, involves the whole nation and threatens the continuance of the organised life of the BRITISH Community. There can be no doubt about this!

We reject the given section 14, and derogate the conditions stated therein because there is an attack towards our nation, one which threatens the continuance of the organised life of the community. We must stop the Mosque being built or even extended because it threatens the continuance of the organised life of the BRITISH community.

So in a nutshell WE ARE GOING TO DUDLEY!!!!

We will not bow to state sponsored intimidation from West Midlands Police Force. It’s about time West Midlands Police actually facilitated a peaceful protest for the EDL. Admitting that they have made some serious errors in previous protests is just not good enough, they are there to do a job, they should be there to help provide a peaceful outcome to our demonstration.

The notices served against us MUST be rescinded.

More details will follow soon enough fellow patriots.......



WE ARE GOING TO DUDLEY!!!

Raoul Moat the aftermath

The violent death of Raoul Moat ended a week long manhunt that will be seen as one of the most bizarre historical police investigations of all time.The events of the last week will also have changed the lives of a lot of other people for ever. Some changes will be evident immediately but some will not be noticed for years to come.Moats second victim and the mother of his child will one day have to explain to their daughter all the details of what happened.About how her dad was jailed for hitting his son. If it was true or not. About how she left him for another man, a man just as violent if not more so as Raoul Moat.How she goaded him.There is no doubt the lives of Raoul Moats family will be difficult and traumatic for some time to come.In the wider world the information coming out about Moat and the way the police conducted themselves has started a great debate about the rights and wrongs of Moats and the police behavior.
Why Moat is seen as a hero to some people. These heroes only arise in times when people judge the forces of oppression,the law to be of lesser moral value than the criminal they are trying to catch, that's what a folk hero has always been, they are never nice people. Very few people in the country will have met Raoul Moat, but a lot will have met the Police. I get to see the police in two places. One in the countryside were they are still your average British bobby. And the other way in the city were they are seen as corporate enforcers for the mob.Why is that? They have been involved in too many incidents such as the Ian Tomlinson death and Jean De Menese.Were innocent people have died.But were every time someone is killed the investigation results in them getting away with it.What message does that send? We can do what the we want.There is no doubt about it we need to take the police down a peg or two and make them more responsible to us. They work for us they are not our masters. But if we don't do something now they soon will be. Not by design but by natural progression as we will be seen as children unable to take responsibility for ourselves.

Raoul Moat Autopsy

The fastest autopsy ever conducted has just released the results that Raoul Moats injuries are consistent with the gun he had.This is now beginning to get farcical. It is also said that a member of the Moat family,unidentified has confirmed there are no taser marks on his body. Opinion? Bizarre

Did Samantha Stobbart's behavior get Chris Brown killed?

In France there is a defense to murder called a crime of passion
We have all read Greek tragedy and tales of jealous lovers. Some women will deliberately provoke a man they are in love with to test them.If what Raoul Moat has said is true then Samantha Stobbart is no doubt considering what she said and did on the night and preceding days to the incident.If it is the case then the silliness of one woman has played a part in the death of a man.

Raoul Moat Hostage

For some reason the rest of the media seem to be blanking out the face of Karl Ness one of the men held hostage by Raoul Moat.As it is available in other places on the internet I am publishing it here.